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tumblr live should not be this mysterious

the plug-n-play streaming package that Tumblr installed as “Tumblr Live” is a white label product from a company called Livebox (developed by the Meet Group, subsidary of Parshipmeet), who have a homepage riddled with spelling errors and purport to operate the dating apps Meet Me (formerly My Yearbook), Skout, Tagged, and Growlr, all of which appear to be identical except for Growlr, which is specifically for gay men. all of them are just dating apps with a livestreaming feature. i would venture a guess based on the architecture that Livebox is also powering Superlive, which is the only one of these I have any experience with. it’s popular with camgirls outside of the USA, especially in countries where full nude camming is illegal.

i don’t really understand what livestreaming has to do with dating apps and don’t know anyone who uses these platforms for anything. i assume some of it is just sex work, some of it is just ad space, lots of data brokering, and judging by the performance issues the users complain about, possibly crypto mining(???).

looking through the app pages on the Play store shows the same reviews for every single one of them: app crashes constantly, bans are arbitrary, support is no help, the apps drain your phone battery suspiciously quickly, and there are about 20 bots for every real person profile. i dont know what the exact dates are because i cant see site analytics and dont know what the Live development schedule was, but it’s interesting that the sudden increase in porn bot activity on tumblr seems to roughly overlap with the Tumblr Live development and implementation, at least from a tumblr user perspective.

i dont know where the strangers in the Tumblr Live bar are streaming from, in terms of what you would consider their “home network”. im guessing, but it really looks to me like they are streaming on whatever familiar platform they’ve got an audience on, and then being split-streamed to Tumblr. i’ve been meaning to sit in one of the popular streams and check usernames of audiencemembers, because my guess is that most of the audience are not going to have accounts here either. many of the streamers ive checked do not have tumblr accounts. some of them have tumblr accounts, but most of those accounts appear perfunctory: only a few months old, completely impersonal reblogs from the trending tab (you know the type), instagram-type language and general aspirational influencer stuff, which absolutely does not exist on tumblr organically because this site does not have market share for sponsored products OR a userbase with disposable income, it’s a waste of time for an instagram model type to post here.

i’ve tried to talk to these streamers once or twice about this stuff but didn’t get anywhere, and it would be rude to press the issue. but that is probably the next step.

do we think its good, for example, that the gay dating app Growlr, which is owned by Meet Group (who develop Livebox, which is what powers Tumblr Live) is one of the apps that sold location data to the Colorado group that outed gay catholic priests to bishops all over the usa?

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are these good people for tumblr, the gay safety website, to be getting into bed with. is that good

is that good